Dvorak bashes web services. Peter Coffee quotes Gosling bashing web services. Does Dvorak think humming along with Gosling gives him credibility? I dunno. But I think Mr. Dvorak is just being contrarian to be contrarian, to raise hackles, to get links, to inspire flames.  After all, that's what a columnist lives for; I should know, I am one.

But a good columnist finds the conflict in the truth.  And truth is, I suspect, that Dvorak doesn't know a web service from a hole in the ground. His prattling on about big vendors in the WS-I “drinking club”  ignores the basic facts:

1) There are already web services being used to make money –they just happen to be mostly behind firewalls. 

2) There are for-profit software products in vertical markets that use web services now–and they're working without WS-I or any other alleged standards drinking club.

3)Web services? My hands are soaking in it.